Pontiac Grand Prix SE

"Boxer_4" (Boxer_4) 01/11/2020 at 18:05 • Filed to: None

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Medium Teal Metallic?

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If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > Boxer_4 01/11/2020 at 18:13

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Mmmmm basketweave wheels

fintail > Boxer_4 01/11/2020 at 18:19

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My brother had one of these. It even had HUD in one of GM’s flashes of being ahead of the times , but as it was a 20 year old hooptie, I think it had more than a few electrical quirks. I believe it was replaced by an early CR-V.

Boxer_4 > fintail 01/11/2020 at 19:06

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GM is really good at being ahead in some fascinating areas while being far behind in other much more critical areas. Those early CR-Vs can be quite nice.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > Boxer_4 01/11/2020 at 19:06

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Mmmmmmmm, body cladding. Pontiac’s specialty!

ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com > Boxer_4 01/11/2020 at 19:27

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We got a Grand Am of that era (and in that color) for my sister when she was first learning to drive. Despite having only 100k miles and being in good condition, that car was a truly terrible in just about every way.  That glorious color couldn’t make up for everything else being so bad.  

Duck Duck Grey Duck FTMFW! > Boxer_4 01/11/2020 at 19:31

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I am so upset that these are not RWD.

Boxer_4 > ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com 01/11/2020 at 19:59

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I found this in the parking lot of an auto parts store, so...

fintail > Boxer_4 01/11/2020 at 20:13

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GM has a ton of innovations - automatic pioneer, FI, air suspension, airbags, etc, but often seemed to take two steps forward and one and a half steps back.

Funny thing, those CR- V s can be very rugged, but this one w as no more reliable than the GP, due to it being yet another miled up old workhorse with unclear history (I think it had transmission or differential issues). A late 90s Legacy wagon that eventually replaced it has actually been solid, due to the prior owner dealing with the headgasket.

ranwhenparked > ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com 01/11/2020 at 20:22

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That’s most of ‘90s GM. Usually d ecent looking, but utterly forgettable cars.

NojustNo > Boxer_4 01/11/2020 at 20:57

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Love the style of these . there was a g orgeous one at Radwood tacoma last year.

Boxer_4 > fintail 01/13/2020 at 19:41

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GM always seems to focus on the next great thing, without really nailing the basics.  

A relative has a first generation CR-V, a 2000 I believe. She bought it new and it currently has ~70,000 miles. It’s in fantastic shape, as you can imagine. Most of them have been used much harder at this point.

fintail > Boxer_4 01/13/2020 at 21:36

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Then, as now, GM can use work on interiors, especially on premium cars.

That CR-V will effectively last forever.   The last of somewhat analog cars.  Kind of reminds me of my mom’s XV30 Camry which is also well under 100K.  Given her age and the mileage of the car, she may never be required to replace it, it could easily have another 20+ years of life left in it.

Boxer_4 > fintail 01/14/2020 at 18:52

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My friend has an ‘88 Camaro. It’s an awesome car, but I’m honestly a bit afraid to touch any of the interior pieces at this point.

My relative who owns the CR-V is in her early 70s at this point. Also, she takes very good care of it.  The only way that car will not last is if something significant happens to it.  

fintail > Boxer_4 01/14/2020 at 21:23

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I’d expect 5 textures of now-brittle plastic aging at different rates, so you get something like a 5-tone red interior. The seat upholstery was usually durable, anyway.

That C R-V sounds like my mom’s car. Maintained by the book combined with a durable platform and a gentle driver makes for a long life expectancy.

Boxer_4 > fintail 01/14/2020 at 22:21

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His has a grey interior, so the coloring differences aren’t too noticeable . He does have a worn seat bolster though.

Both her CR-V and your mom’s Camry will be likely candidates for some future iteration of Barnfinds.com

fintail > Boxer_4 01/15/2020 at 15:59

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At that age, I can excuse a lot, including bolster wear. The car was definitely not engineered to last 30+ years. I suspect they could be rattly when much newer, though.

It’ll be interesting to see survival rates of such cars in another 20 or 30 years.  Still endless amounts of them on the road, but the junkyards have to be claiming some by now.  I suspect it will be like with a lot of ordinary older cars, once everywhere, and then one day, all gone.